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Vice President JD Vance is preparing to issue an ultimatum to all 50 states: fully comply with anti-fraud laws or risk losing federal funding. The administration is set to launch a nationwide audit of state Medicaid fraud units—the watchdogs responsible for tracking and stopping abuse in the system.
Officials have stated that if states do not cooperate, their federal Medicaid funding will be at risk.
One co-host expressed skepticism about the initiative’s effectiveness, saying, “I think Vance means what he says. He wants to see change, no doubt about it.” The same co-host added, “All of these federal dollars, the people who try to get a piece of this pie just because it’s there… people are looking to steal stuff from us. I think it’s great. I like to see it. How effective will it be? I’ll believe it when I see it.”
Another co-host voiced impatience with the pace of anti-fraud efforts, stating, “I need this, but I needed it yesterday faster… I need a DOGE-style website where I get receipts. I want daily updates… it takes time because you have to do these long investigations to make sure that when you get sued, you have your tracks covered. But I needed it yesterday, and I need it now and faster. It’s a good start.”
Referencing past estimates of waste, one panelist noted, “He was talking over $500 billion of waste, fraud and abuse. I call it waste, fraud and corruption. The GAO basically had a similar number.”
Discussion turned to the role of executive power in recovering funds. One co-host pointed to Russ Vought, the OMB Director, as a leader in this area, adding, “The president has executive power either to repurpose funds or, wait for it, it’s a horrible, wonderful word, impound the money.” The same speaker noted that impoundment powers were restricted by Congress in 1974 but argued that some believe it remains in the law.
Regarding specific examples of fraud, one panelist cited findings in Los Angeles: “Mehmet Oz just in Los Angeles alone on the hospice fraud and corruption found $100 billion, which is probably… that’s just in L.A. alone.”
The co-hosts also compared fraud levels between states, with California and Minnesota mentioned as having significant issues. One speaker remarked, “People who live in California on this panel… that’s probably bigger than all the money Minnesota’s ever seen.”
When asked about clawing back misspent funds, one co-host responded, “That’s a really important question.” Another added succinctly, “And throw ’em in jail.”
The discussion concluded with a call for accountability: “Get the money back, throw them in jail, stop wasting other people’s money.”